Filed by First Interstate BancSystem, Inc.
Pursuant to Rule 425
under the Securities Act of 1933 and
deemed filed pursuant to Rule 14a-12 under
the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Subject Company: Cascade Bancorp (Commission File No.: 000-23322)
The following is a transcript of a conference call that was conducted on November 18, 2016.
Cautionary Note Regarding Forward Looking Statements
This communication contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Rule 175 promulgated thereunder, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, and Rule 3b-6 promulgated thereunder, that involve inherent risks and uncertainties. Any statements about First Interstates or the combined companys plans, objectives, expectations, strategies, beliefs, or future performance or events constitute forward-looking statements. Such statements are identified as those that include words or phrases such as believes, expects, anticipates, plans, trend, objective, continue or similar expressions or future or conditional verbs such as will, would, should, could, might, may or similar expressions. Forward-looking statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, assumptions, estimates and other important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from any results, performance or events expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Such forward-looking statements include but are not limited to statements about the benefits of the business combination transaction involving First Interstate and Cascade, including future financial and operating results, the combined companys plans, objectives, expectations and intentions, and other statements that are not historical facts. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those projected, including but not limited to the following: the possibility that the merger does not close when expected or at all because required regulatory, shareholder or other approvals and other conditions to closing are not received or satisfied on a timely basis or at all; the risk that the benefits from the transaction may not be fully realized or may take longer to realize than expected, including as a result of changes in general economic and market conditions, interest and exchange rates, monetary policy, laws and regulations and their enforcement, and the degree of competition in the geographic and business areas in which First Interstate and Cascade operate; the ability to promptly and effectively integrate the businesses of First Interstate Bank and Cascade; the reaction of the companies customers, employees and counterparties to the transaction; and the diversion of management time on merger-related issues. These factors are not necessarily all of the factors that could cause First Interstates, Cascades or the combined companys actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by any of the forward-looking statements. Other unknown or unpredictable factors also could harm First Interstates, Cascades or the combined companys results. All forward-looking statements attributable to First Interstate, Cascade or the combined company or persons acting on First Interstates or Cascades behalf are expressly qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements set forth above. Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date they are made and First Interstate and Cascade do not undertake or assume any obligation to update publicly any of these statements to reflect actual results, new information or future events, changes in assumptions or changes in other factors affecting forward-looking statements, except to the extent required by applicable laws. If First Interstate or Cascade updates one or more forward-looking statements, no inference should be drawn that First Interstate or Cascade will make additional updates with respect to those or other forward-looking statements.
Additional Information About the Merger and Where to Find it
This communication is being made with respect to the proposed transaction involving First Interstate and Cascade. This material is not a solicitation of any vote or approval of the First Interstate or Cascade shareholders and is not a substitute for the joint proxy statement/prospectus or any other documents that First Interstate and Cascade may send to their respective shareholders in connection with the proposed merger. This communication does not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any securities.
In connection with the proposed merger, First Interstate will file with the Securities and Exchange Commission (the SEC) a Registration Statement on Form S-4 that will include a joint proxy statement of First Interstate and
Cascade and a prospectus of First Interstate, as well as other relevant documents concerning the proposed merger. Before making any voting or investment decisions, investors and shareholders are urged to read the Registration Statement and the joint proxy statement/prospectus regarding the proposed Merger, as well as any other relevant documents filed with the SEC and any amendments or supplements to those documents, because they will contain important information. Both First Interstate and Cascade will mail the joint proxy statement/prospectus to their respective shareholders. Shareholders are also urged to carefully review and consider each of First Interstates and Cascades public filings with the SEC, including, but not limited to, their Annual Reports on Form 10-K, their proxy statements, their Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q, and their Current Reports on Form 8-K. Copies of the Registration Statement and joint proxy statement/prospectus and other filings incorporated by reference therein, as well as other filings containing information about First Interstate and Cascade, may be obtained as they become available at the SECs Internet site (http://www.sec.gov). You will also be able to obtain these documents, free of charge, from First Interstate at www.fibk.com or from Cascade at www.botc.com.
First Interstate, Cascade and certain of their respective directors and executive officers, under the SECs rules, may be deemed to be participants in the solicitation of proxies of First Interstates and Cascades shareholders in connection with the proposed transaction. Information about the directors and executive officers of First Interstate and their ownership of First Interstate common stock is set forth in the proxy statement for First Interstates 2016 Annual Meeting of Shareholders, as filed with the SEC on Schedule 14A on April 4, 2016. Information about the directors and executive officers of Cascade and their ownership of Cascade common stock is set forth in the proxy statement for Cascades 2016 Annual Meeting of Shareholders, as filed with the SEC on Schedule 14A on April 13, 2016. Additional information regarding the interests of those participants and other persons who may be deemed participants in the transaction may be obtained by reading the joint proxy statement/prospectus regarding the proposed merger when it becomes available. Free copies of this document may be obtained as described in the preceding paragraph.
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Kenzie Lawson First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - IR
Kevin Riley First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Marcy Mutch First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
Terry Zink Bank of the Cascades - CEO
Chip Reeves Bank of the Cascades - President & COO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Jared Shaw Wells Fargo Securities, LLC - Analyst
Matt Forgotson Sandler ONeill & Partners - Analyst
Matthew Clark Piper Jaffray & Co. - Analyst
Jeff Rulis D.A. Davidson & Co. - Analyst
Jacqui Boland Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Tim Coffey FIG Partners, LLC - Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good afternoon and welcome to the First Interstate BancSystem conference and webcast to discuss expansion into the northwest. All participants will be in listen-only mode.
(Operator Instructions)
Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to over to Kenzie Lawson. Please go ahead.
Kenzie Lawson - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - IR
Thank you, Gary. Good morning and thank you for joining us today to discuss First Interstates merger with Cascade Bancorp that was announced yesterday afternoon. We hope you have had a chance to review our press release that was posted on our website at www.FIBK.com. In addition, we also published an investor presentation yesterday afternoon to our website that we are currently webcasting and will reference on this call.
Before we begin, I would like to direct all listeners to the cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements included on the second and third pages of the presentation. We do not intend to correct or update any of the forward-looking statements made today, and investors are urged to read the proxy statement and other relevant materials related to the merger when they become available as they will contain important information about Cascade, First Interstate, and the merger.
Joining us from management this morning are Kevin Riley, our President and Chief Executive Officer, as well as Marcy Mutch, our Chief Financial Officer. Also joining us from Cascade are Terry Zink, Chief Executive Officer, Chip Reeves, President and Chief Operating Officer, as well as Greg Newton, Chief Financial Officer. Kevin, I will turn the call over to you.
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Thank you, Kenzie. Thank you to everyone for joining us on this important call. I am thrilled that Terry, Chip and Greg are here with us today. The Cascade management team has carried themselves with class and integrity since we started the process of getting to know one another over the past six months. We have met many of the very talented employees at Cascade, and are excited about the opportunity to partner with them.
If youre following along with the slide deck, Im going to get started on slide number 4. But before we discuss the transaction, I want to take a couple of minutes to set the context for the deal we announced yesterday. Over the past couple years we have been focused on putting a foundation in place that will allow us to support a transformational deal that would significantly increases the scale, profitability and future growth opportunities for our Company.
We recognize the areas that we needed to invest in to enable us to effectively manage our growth as we evolve from a local community bank today to a larger regional community bank with a broad, multi-state footprint. With those of you that have been following First Interstate for a while, youve heard us speak often about our focus on people, processes and technology.
This has been our mantra as we have built this foundation, and I want to quickly remind everyone of some of the key actions weve taken. First, our people. We made a number of enhancements to our Senior Management team by bringing in experienced banking professionals with successful track records from larger institutions.
Just to highlight a few of the additions we made our Chief Credit Officer, Steve Yose, was head of Credit Administration for the Northwest and Rocky Mountain regions for KeyBank. Our General Counsel, Kurt Jensen, came to us from a major law firm in Washington, DC where he focused on bank regulatory and compliance matters. Our Chief Banking Officer, Bill Gottwals, came to us from US Bank, where he oversaw the Montana and northern Wyoming markets. And our Head of Human Resources, Mike Cherwin, was previously with Wintrust and helped build their HR department when they were a $2 billion institution to a $25 billion institution.
Additionally, we have spent time over the last two years developing some of our internal talented employees who are now key members of our Executive team, like: Marcy Mutch, our Chief Financial Officer; Kevin Guenther, our Chief Information Officer; Phil Gaglia, our Enterprise Risk Management Officer; Maria Valandra, our Chief Synergy Officer; Patricia Smith, our Head of Wealth Management and our Client Experience Program; as well as Lee Groom, our Head of Customer Specialties, where he oversees mortgage lending, indirect lending, and card services.
And with this acquisition we are excited to welcome Chip Reeves to the First Interstate executive team. As we mentioned earlier, Chip is President and Chief Operating Officer of Cascade and has overseen all banking operations across their footprint.
Chip came to Cascade from Fifth Third, where he was President of the Chicago affiliate, overseeing all lines of businesses. Chip will continue to oversee the current Cascade footprint, which will be helpful in facilitating a smooth integration.
Next, lets talk about processes. Weve developed a robust M&A capability that has enabled us to acquire and successfully integrate three banks in the past three years. Weve recently established a risk committee at the Board level, and further developed our enterprise-wide risk management processes.
Weve added new talent to our mortgage area and have improved processes in that line of business. And since Steve Yose joined us earlier this year, he has seen overseen a number of enhancements to our client our credit administration policies and procedures that have brought us more in line with the best practices of larger banks. And lastly technology weve made a number of investments designed to enhance our overall efficiencies in the organization and improve our scalability.
This initiative has hit full stride over the past couple months as we rolled out a new digital banking platform to all of our customers and implemented a number of enhancements to the systems we use from our general ledger and accounts payable and our financial reporting system, to our human resources management system. And finally, weve been very thoughtful from a capital management standpoint, utilizing all of the tools in our toolbox organic growth, dividends, buybacks, and acquisitions to enhance our returns to our shareholders.
At the same time, weve maintained sufficient capital to enable us to act upon this type of attractive, transformational deal. The takeaway from all of this is that weve been preparing the Company for a very long time, not just to execute on a deal like this, but to also effectively manage the growth that results from it. We are very excited to have found in Cascade what we think is an ideal partner to move our growth strategy forward.
Notably, the combination resulted in a banking Company over $12 billion in assets. Please keep in mind that all the metrics we announce today are fully loaded with the increased regulatory burden that occurs when crossing over $10 billion in assets. Next, I want to emphasize that our due diligence has been robust.
Overall, we have found Cascade to have a strong risk management culture, including favorable credit quality and a beneficial interest rate sensitivity profile. Strategically, there are many complementary characteristics between our franchises that will result in a low-risk transaction with very good prospects for benefiting shareholders, customers and employees. Our infrastructure is ready for todays transformational opportunity with Cascade.
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
We expect to complete the transaction in mid-2017, with the system integration shortly thereafter. This partnership will position us to be one of the strongest regional banks in the Mountain West and Pacific Northwest states. Moving to slide 6, let me tell you more about Cascade.
Cascade is a $3.2 billion asset bank holding company based in Bend, Oregon. Over its 40-year history, Cascade has grown to 50 branches in Oregon, Idaho and Washington, including business banking centers in Portland and Seattle. Cascade has focused on relationship-oriented community banking with a focus on gathering low-cost deposits and making high-quality commercial and consumer loans.
One of the great things about Cascade is that it looks so much like First Interstate, yet operates in a footprint with additional growth opportunities. Cascade is the largest bank operating in Bend, and the largest community bank operating in Boise. These are two cities that weve spent considerable time studying, and we foresee excellent opportunities in both of these markets.
Bend has been identified as a top small city for business and careers, primarily related to the educated workforce and high quality of living. Cascades dominant position in Bend is anchored by its very strong deposit franchise, which we expect will continue to be a stable, low-cost funding base in years ahead. As you all know, this is very similar to the positions for us, as we already have number one market share in many of our markets in Montana and Wyoming that provide a similar strong deposit base.
We also like the Boise market a lot. We have considered how to expand into this market for some time, and as the third-largest metropolitan area in the Pacific Northwest, Boise has an excellent growth opportunity ahead, stemming from its focus on technology, agribusiness and manufacturing. Cascade also has branches in many smaller cities throughout Oregon, Idaho, and Washington, which complement their existing branch network.
We look forward to reinforcing all the good work that Cascade has been doing as a leader in these communities. Cascade has a relatively new presence in Seattle and Portland. Seattle and Portland are among the fastest growing metropolitan markets in the US, and Cascade is just beginning to realize their potential in these markets.
We expect to continue to benefit from the strong growth and economic base in these large metropolitan markets. Since this was the part of the country that Steve Yose oversaw while in Credit Administration for KeyBank, we are very familiar with the customers and the key players in this market.
We also feel very good about our understanding of the credit environment in these larger metropolitan areas. On a combined basis, and as measured by deposits we will become the third largest bank headquartered in our six-state footprint and have a presence in all the largest markets of the Pacific Northwest and Northern Mountain West.
We see meaningful connectivity between our existing markets and the Cascade markets, including commerce and tourism. Although we have not captured this synergy in our financial analysis, we believe this is one of the elements that will enhance our combined organizations.
Cascades loan portfolio and deposit mix looks a lot like our own, and as youll see on the bottom right of page 5, this stems from the high quality of their commercial and CRE relationships, which comprise over 60% of their loan portfolio. Additionally, 35% of their deposits are non-interest-bearing. We believe that we can greatly improve on Cascades historical profitability by leveraging First Interstates existing infrastructure and product sets across the Cascade footprint.
Cascades markets are among the fastest growing in the nation. Its organic loan and revenue growth reflects the underlying economic vitality of these Northwest states. Their recent acquisition has enhanced the franchise value, but 2016 earnings have been held back by their lack of scale coupled with one-time merger and acquisitions cost.
Turning to slide 7, as I mentioned earlier, Cascade looks a lot like First Interstate. You can see on the map that one of the defining characteristics of both of our franchises is the historic focus on smaller markets. The key to their franchise is the strong position that Cascade has in Bend and Boise, which comprise over 55% of their deposits, along with other smaller markets that bring stability in their funding profile.
This complements our strategic goal to focus on larger market share in community bank locales for optimum branch network profitability. Over the next five years, population growth in Bend and Boise is projected to be over double the national average, and household income growth is also projected to significantly exceed the national average. With Cascades strong position in these markets, we will be able to benefit from these trends.
In addition, the strong demographic outlook for Cascades markets raises the overall expectation of population and household income growth across our enlarged footprint. Opportunities in Seattle and Portland also complement this footprint.
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
Moving to slide 8, due to the strength of Cascades markets and its expansion into larger metropolitan areas, Cascade has been able to organically grow its loan portfolio 16% annualized over the past four quarters and even more so, when you consider their recent acquisition of Prime Pacific Financial. Cascade is a strong commercial lender and has been the largest SBA lender in Bend, and the fourth largest in Boise. We think another strong attribute of the combination is that it diversifies First Interstate geographically as well as by loan type.
For example, on the loan side, this transaction reduces our consumer contribution by 4% and increases our CRE contribution by 4%. Our pro forma ratio of investor commercial real estate, multifamily loans and construction loans to total capital is expected to be approximately 180%, below the 300% regulatory guidance for increased monitoring, which provides us room for additional growth. We also see advantages in Cascades interest rate profile, with 44% of their loan portfolio repricing by the end of 2017 as compared to 50% of our portfolio that reprices within the next 12 months. When combined with our strong deposit base and short term duration of our investment portfolio, this should drive a natural asset sensitivity for our balance sheet.
Cascades loan portfolio is very clean, and Cascade has not taken any loan loss provision since the second quarter of 2013. Its worth noting that Cascade did have elevated losses during the crisis, largely related to being overexposed to the construction lending and some other markets. The real estate recovery in Cascades markets and the strong workout team have resolved nearly all the legacy credit issues, and we expect the Cascade portfolio to perform well.
Now looking at slide number 9, similar to First Interstate, Cascade focuses first on deposit relationships, resulting in a 9 basis point cost of funds, which is one-third the cost of our peers. The composition of their deposits is remarkably similar to our own, and when combined, our cost of deposits will be approximately 15 basis points, one of the lowest among our peer group.
Just like with First Interstate, Cascade has a strong base of core deposits and these deposits will be a source of funding as we seek to organically grow loans as a result of the strong growth opportunity across our footprint. We expect this growth will raise our loans to deposit ratio and support our net interest margin.
At this point, I want to ask Marcy to review the financial details of the transaction. Marcy.
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
Thanks, Kevin. Im going to start on slide 10 with a summary of the deal terms. This transaction is structured as a cash and stock merger with each share of Cascade being exchanged for $1.91 in cash and 0.14864 shares of Class A common stock of First Interstate. Based on Wednesdays closing price of $38.30 per First Interstate share, this implies a value to Cascade shareholders of $7.60 per share and an aggregate value of $589 million, including restricted stock awards as well as options and restricted stock units that will be cashed out at closing. Weve already discussed how this transaction is strategically compelling for First Interstate but is also financially attractive.
The implied price of $7.60 per Cascade share is 21.15 times Cascades September 30 tangible book value per share, and 12.9 times Cascades 2017 earnings, including our estimate of fully phased-in cost savings. This is a big part of the strong earnings accretion that this transaction will generate. It is notable that when we first established the basis for our exchange ratio, the implied price was 1.9 times Cascades tangible book value per share, but due to the recent appreciation in our stock price, this multiple has increased.
Based on this exchange ratio, Cascade shareholders will be issued 11.3 million Class A shares of First Interstate at closing, which is equivalent to 20% ownership of First Interstate at closing. This increase in the number of Class A shares will result in First Interstate Class B shareholders owning 42% of the Company, down from todays 52% share.
Our Board of Directors will add two Board members from Cascade this will help us maintain continuity in the Cascade markets. The transaction is expected to close in mid-2017, subject to customary regulatory approvals. Due to the large insider ownership of Cascade, a majority of the Cascade shareholders have already entered into a voting agreement to vote in favor of the transaction. All members of our Board have also signed voting agreements to vote in favor of the transaction.
Turning to slide 11, the earnings from Cascade, once fully integrated, will be a powerful addition to our franchise and we believe the transaction will increase our earnings per share by 10% per year once cost savings are fully realized.
In 2018, we expect earnings per share accretion will be a little lower, due to the loss of interchange revenue that will occur once we cross over the $10 billion regulatory threshold. So we project about an 8.5% accretion in that year. In the event regulatory relief includes Durbin amendment changes, obviously our absolute earnings-per-share as well as our deal accretion metrics would markedly benefit.
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
The initial tangible book value dilution at closing will be 8.8%, which will be earned back over five years using a crossover method. A key financial assumption is that weve identified $24.7 million of cost savings resulting from this transaction, which approximates 28% of Cascades run rate expenses. Because Cascade is a market expansion opportunity, cost savings are a lower percentage than in First Interstates prior deals.
As Kevin mentioned, it is strategically important that this expansion will diversify our footprint into strong growth markets in the Northwest. With this expansion, we plan to retain all branches and virtually all production-related human resources, which we view as the foundation of a strong community bank. On the flip side, and as you would expect, the majority of the projected savings are found in overhead and duplicative back-office activities.
The savings we identified in due diligence are comfortably realizable as a result of the investments weve already made in our infrastructure including streamlining and centralizing our processes, and pursuing the technology enhancements that Kevin mentioned earlier. As a reminder, weve been able to achieve or exceed announced cost savings expectations on each of the last three acquisitions, and we believe that targeted cost savings with Cascade will be realized within six months after closing.
As I just mentioned, a portion of these savings will be in personnel, and to the extent that some individuals do not become part of our combined Company, we will provide them with a generous severance package along with outplacement services to assist in finding future employment. Weve also identified restructuring costs and fair value adjustments to Cascades balance sheet at closing, which weve incorporated into our estimate of the tangible book value impact of the transaction.
Some of these estimates will also accrete back to our income over time. Our total assets will be over $12 billion at closing. As I mentioned earlier, our financial impact analysis includes the full impact of crossing over the $10 billion threshold. This additional scale will help us offset the cost and revenue loss impact of crossing the $10 billion in assets, which includes an acceleration of the impact of the Durbin amendment, which will reduce our combined debit interchange income by $11.5 million on a pro forma basis.
Moving to slide 12, First Interstate is already a high-performing bank, and this transaction further solidifies our strong profitability. Our operating metrics after fully integrating the transaction will be better than our standalone metrics, with our efficiency ratio expected to fall 260 to 330 basis points, our return on average tangible assets to increase by 2 to 4 basis points, and our return on average tangible common equity to increase 150 to 220 basis points, as measured against our September 30, 2016 financial results.
Equally important, the strong deposit franchise of Cascade, and favorable demographic outlook, position us even better for the future. Looking at slide 13, the management of both Companies have considered this combination for a while, and First Interstate has performed extensive due diligence using both internal teams and external vendors, which covered every material facet of Cascades business.
Our team has proven to be very good at performing due diligence, and Im incredibly thankful to all of them for the focus and commitment through the due diligence process. Our credit diligence reviewed over 75% of Cascades commercial and commercial real estate loans, including all of their criticized loans over $250,000, and all of their other real estate owned.
Its important to highlight that this diligence was led by Steve Yose, our Chief Credit Officer, who we have mentioned earlier, served for approximately 15 years as credit executive overseeing the Pacific Northwest and Rocky Mountain regions for Key. Steve has seen credit in nearly all of Cascades markets from his prior experience.
We have had ample time to conduct our credit review, and deployed a team of our most experienced credit professionals to evaluate and re-underwrite the Cascade portfolio. Our $25 million credit mark represents 1.2% of the gross loan portfolio. Through the course of our diligence, weve been impressed by the great cultural fit between our businesses.
We are remarkably similar in our conservative credit cultures, strong values, consistent business practices, and commitment to quality. We believe this stems from the nature of Cascades strong presence in smaller markets, and the commitment to community and relationship banking models that we both embrace. This similarity in cultures is an added benefit that we believe reduces our execution risk in the transaction.
The last thing Id like to point out related to our diligence, is that from the earliest days of evaluating this transaction we have been conservative in our expectation of Cascades earnings relative to what is possible. We continue to believe that our expectations are conservative and are excited about the future of our combined organization. At this point we would like to have Terry to say a few words about the transaction. Terry.
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
Terry Zink - Bank of the Cascades - CEO
Thanks, Marcy. As Kevin and Marcy have discussed, this transaction hits all the criteria that you look for in a transformational deal. It makes sense strategically, it makes sense financially, and it makes sense culturally. From the perspective of Cascade, we feel very confident that this combination will be good for all of our stakeholders.
Certainly customers will benefit from the broader capabilities of First Interstate, but at the core and because of the similar approach that First Interstate and Cascade have, we will be very much a community bank deeply invested in our customer relationship and always working in the best interest of the people that are our friends and neighbors. As transformational deals go, this one stands out as a combination where both organizations will stay largely intact.
There are meaningful levels of cost savings, but those can be achieved without touching the branch network or any customers facing employees. In fact, First Interstate made it clear to us that one of the reasons they were interested in this combination was due to their respect and appreciation for the level of experienced banking talent that we have in the Cascade organization.
We are very happy that by being a part of a larger bank, our employees will have a better opportunity to advance their careers in banking. Ive had a chance to get to know Kevin and Marcy and other members of First Interstate team very well, and I am very impressed with the similarities between our two organizations.
Ultimately, I believe that the shared cultural values and similar approach to community banking will make for a very smooth integration and help us achieve the synergies that will result in a high performing bank that all of us can be proud of. Now Id like to turn the call back over to Kevin.
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Thanks, Terry. Ill wrap up with slide number 14, with a brief summary. As I hope you can see, I hope you can tell, we are excited about announcing this transformational event in the history of our Company, and believe it strengthens the foundation of First Interstate and our outlook for the future. Its a combination that is strategically, financially, and culturally compelling.
First Interstates vision is to be a premier financial service provider in the communities we serve, and our company values support that vision. Culturally, our combined organization also supports this vision. We both recognize the importance of the value chain, which is that engaged employees result in satisfied customers and a vibrant community.
All these lead to increased returns to our shareholders. We will be the third largest community bank headquartered in our six-state footprint, while remaining committed to the relationship banking model that is the foundation of both First Interstate and Cascade. Besides that, Cascade provides positive operating leverage and attractive financial metrics that benefit from both people, processes and technologies that weve been investing in for several years.
Their markets enhance our growth profile, and play to our strengths while diversifying our balance sheet. Lastly, this transaction helped us overcome the hurdle of crossing $10 billion in assets threshold. As we look ahead to the integration of our Companies post-closing, it is our shared belief that is important to support the communities in which we work, live, and play, that will make this combination successful.
Our very foundation is rooted in our identity as a community bank. We look forward to welcoming the Cascade employees into the First Interstate family over the next several months, and working together to complete this merger with a common goal of building the strongest bank in our region.
Operator, you can open up for questions.
QUESTION AND ANSWER
Operator
(Operator Instructions)
Jared Shaw, Wells Fargo Securities
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
Jared Shaw - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC - Analyst
Theres a couple questions here on the cost savings, are those, is that when youre looking at the franchise now being over $10 billion net, we should be able to see those cost saves? Are those just the straight cost saves from integrating the operations? And then there could be some additional expenses as a result of going over $10 billion that we should be factoring in for the core franchise? I know you broke out the revenue impact of Durbin, but what about on the expense side of what we should be expecting, looking at DFAST and things like that?
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
With regards to cost savings, those are directly the combined company. Additional costs regarding going over $10 billion, we have already borne most of those costs as a standalone institution, and those are already in our forecast going forward. So we dont perceive any additional costs because we are planning taking care of those costs in our forecast of First Interstate standalone.
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
We did factor into this, Jared, the FDIC surcharge, which is about $1.7 million annually, but it terminates at the end of 2018.
Jared Shaw - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC - Analyst
Okay, and that is factored into your earn-back period estimates?
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
It is.
Jared Shaw - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC - Analyst
Okay. And then looking at the credit mark, the right way to look at this basically the credit mark equals the reserves, and theres no, nothing additional beyond that?
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
There is an additional interest rate marke, about $8.5 million.
Jared Shaw - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC - Analyst
But just from the credit side, its just taking a reserve?
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
Thats right.
Jared Shaw - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC - Analyst
Okay. And then on our model here, were trying to reconcile everything can you, whats at this point the dollar amount of goodwill in addition to the CDI that we should be looking at?
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
Goodwill is about $274 million and the CDI is $41 million.
Jared Shaw - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC - Analyst
Okay, great. Thanks, I guess my final question in the new markets, are you going to keep the Cascade name? Or will we be expecting to see First Interstate as the primary marketing name?
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Cascade has a very strong brand. We are working with Wells to acquire the rights to our name, but if we have to use Cascade, well use it. We plan to use Cascade right now, but we are hoping that we will acquire the First Interstate name before this acquisition closes.
Jared Shaw - Wells Fargo Securities, LLC - Analyst
Okay great. Thanks, thats all I had.
Operator
Matt Forgotson, Sandler ONeill & Partners
Matt Forgotson - Sandler ONeill & Partners - Analyst
Hi, good morning.
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Good morning, Matt.
Matt Forgotson - Sandler ONeill & Partners - Analyst
Just tightening up a little bit here on the earnings accretion expectation. Youre saying 8% accretive to 2018? Are you using the street 2018 EPS estimate of $2.45 as the base?
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
For us, yes.
Matt Forgotson - Sandler ONeill & Partners - Analyst
Yes. Okay, just to be clear, all else equal, youre penciling in roughly $0.20 of accretion from the transaction in 2018?
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Yes.
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
Matt Forgotson - Sandler ONeill & Partners - Analyst
Okay. Whats the tax rate that youre using for the pro forma Company?
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
35%
Matt Forgotson - Sandler ONeill & Partners - Analyst
Okay, thank you. And then lastly, Im penciling your pro forma TC ratio at close at about 7.5% just trying to get a sense of capacity for further acquisitions, between now and then? Or should we expect a pause until capital replenishes?
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Ours is a little bit higher, I think its like 7.65%. But youre pretty close with your calculation, Matt. Right now we have to focus on this acquisition and integrating it to make sure that we get everything we need to make it right.
But we believe our capital levels, the tangible common equity as well as our total risk-based capital, to get back to a nice level within 12 to 18 months since acquisition. So well look at what we can do but as you know, this was a lot of cash deal, if we did an all-stock deal that would actually be accretive to probably our tangible book as well as our capital ratios.
Matt Forgotson - Sandler ONeill & Partners - Analyst
Okay, thank you very much.
Operator
Matthew Clark, Piper Jaffray
Matthew Clark - Piper Jaffray & Co. - Analyst
Yes, good morning.
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Good morning, Matt.
Matthew Clark - Piper Jaffray & Co. - Analyst
Just on the core run rate of expenses that youre using for Cascade, and I think you had a little bit of noise in the third quarter, just curious what youre using on a dollar basis?
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
Using a little over $87 million for the year.
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
Matthew Clark - Piper Jaffray & Co. - Analyst
$87 million?
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
Yes.
Matthew Clark - Piper Jaffray & Co. - Analyst
And okay, how should we think about the growth, the underlying growth rate for the Cascade franchise? I would think it would be able to grow at a faster pace than legacy First Interstate? Just curious how we should think about the growth prospects there?
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
We look at 8% to 9% within their footprint, and overall pro forma at about 5.5%
Matthew Clark - Piper Jaffray & Co. - Analyst
Got it, okay, and then thinking through the fee -elated products that Cascade has, are there any products that they have that you might rollout across your own footprint?
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
We havent built any of that into the model.
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
They dont have any really unique products. Actually, we have probably some things we can roll into their markets that they dont have, but we didnt add any of those actual improvements into our forecasting.
Matthew Clark - Piper Jaffray & Co. - Analyst
Okay, understood, thanks.
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
You bet.
Operator
Jeff Rulis, DA Davidson
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
Jeff Rulis - D.A. Davidson & Co. - Analyst
Thanks, good morning. On the operating markets, you touched a little on Seattle and Portland, and I know that had been a big expansion focus for Cascade. Maybe add a little more color about your intention in those markets? And then additionally, looks like the notable hole would be eastern Washington, and thats got some very similar characteristics to the legacy First Interstate markets maybe just a quick touch on those three markets, if you could?
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
You said eastern Washington eastern Washington could be a future expansion. But right now, when we look at Portland and Seattle, Cascade has invested some time and energy in that to grow those markets which are nice markets. But what we dont want to do with regards to First Interstate and Cascade in some of their communities, is to just focus on Portland and Seattle.
As you know, they have about $500 million in loans right now in those two markets, and were going to be an over $12 billion institution. So yes, we will focus a little bit in that area, but we have to focus on maintaining the majority of what we are, we are small business, middle and small middle market lender, and we are a community bank, and well focus on that. We will do some growth in those markets, but were not going to lose the focus on who we are.
Jeff Rulis - D.A. Davidson & Co. - Analyst
Okay. And then maybe a question on how you came about the consideration mix? Just the thoughts behind the 75% stock versus 25% cash, and the thoughts behind that?
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Well part of it is we had some excess capital, so we wanted to utilize some of that to make this thing more attractive to our shareholders. Plus, you know the seller always dictates how much cash they want in a deal, so they really wanted a little more cash in the deal so we were able to comply with that. So thats kind of how, between the two of us, we came up with that split.
Jeff Rulis - D.A. Davidson & Co. - Analyst
Sure. And then maybe one last one for the folks at Cascade? The process of looking at potential other suitors, with other bidders, and why you think First Interstate the right fit, versus other conversations you had?
Terry Zink - Bank of the Cascades - CEO
Yes, Jeff, this is Terry. I think that as we talked before at a lot of our investor conferences, one of the things that we look for was something that would be not only a strategic fit but a cultural fit. And when we looked at various opportunities out there, and we had significant conversations with several different organizations, and the one thing that really jumped out at us with First Interstate was the cultural fit.
The fact that they run their business very similar to how we run our business. The employee retention factor was a big thing for us, and we genuinely like the management structure that existed at First Interstate and the opportunity to see the legacy that had been built at Cascade to be able to continue on in a very similar fashion. And so I think it was really trying to do what was right for shareholders, and at the same time what would be right for customers and employees and this certainly is the best possible fit.
Chip Reeves - Bank of the Cascades - President & COO
And Jeff, this is Chip. Just adding on, a couple other business lines that we looked at, some of the other conversations, didnt necessarily expand actually what wed be able to offer our customers.
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
And with First Interstate and the wealth management group that they have that Cascades never been able to invest in, and bringing that across our entire footprint is going to be an extreme positive. And it also, as you know, FIBK has a large indirect auto portfolio at the same time, bringing that across our footprint. And none of the other suitors were able to actually bring that to our customer base, so were excited about it.
Jeff Rulis - D.A. Davidson & Co. - Analyst
Great, thank you.
Operator
Jacqui Boland, KBW
Jacqui Boland - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Hi, good morning everyone. Is it fair to say that based on the 75% expected realization of cost savings in the second half of 2017 that youre looking at more of a 3Q close than a 2Q close?
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
We are looking for a Q3 close.
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
Early. Early Q3.
Jacqui Boland - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
So then I would guess, based on the six-month timeframe and the success youve had in other transactions with them, just to wrap in integration and cost realization, that its probably fairly early in the 2018, youd have 100% realization?
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
We will have it all done by the end of 2017. Normally, as you know, Jacqui, when we do the system conversion, the day or shortly thereafter, we pretty much do our cost saves we finalize them. So we dont carry it on. I would say with the way we scheduled it out, that those actually will be all done before the fourth quarter ends.
Jacqui Boland - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Okay. I know is very preliminary, but probably an early Q3 close with a 4Q conversion and then we start off 2018 nice and clean?
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Yes.
Jacqui Boland - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Okay. What type of a rate outlook did you look at when you were calculating your accretion?
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
Marcy Mutch - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - CFO
We left their margin pretty flat through the whole, through our model. I think we have a 25 basis point increase in December projected into their estimates, and weve kind of just left ours. We havent considered that in our future forecast.
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Really no real rate increases in our forecast.
Jacqui Boland - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Okay thats helpful, thank you. Last one, more for Cascade management, either Terry or Chip, in the past I knew that some small loan purchases have been part of the liquidity deployment from some of the deposits you brought on earlier in the year, does that, given the change in events, does that still remain part of the strategy or has any of that shifted?
Chip Reeves - Bank of the Cascades - President & COO
I dont think any of that shifted. Right now we are continuing on the same path, Jacqui, that weve been on. I would say that, as you and I talked before, we had set a limit on where we wanted to hold that (inaudible) portfolio, and we dont plan on growing that any more. We are going to continue to hold that where it is. And so we pretty much deployed the BofA deposits that we got. So I would say that right now, youre not going to see much change in that. But the strategy is still same, just to hold what we have and mitigate any interest rate risk we might have.
Jacqui Boland - Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc. - Analyst
Okay, thank you, thats helpful. Thank you, everyone.
Operator
(Operator Instructions)
Tim Coffey, FIG Partners
Tim Coffey - FIG Partners, LLC - Analyst
Good morning everyone. Kevin, Cascades been making some inroads in investments in lending in Seattle and Portland. With that company under your umbrella, are you more inclined to allow those kind of opportunities or initiatives to mature? Or do you think you will add some more people in those markets?
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Well I think we will let it mature, but were okay if we needed to add. Wed look to Steve Yose to see exactly how we need to capture what we want to capture in those markets. I think theres some great opportunity, but I dont want to turn all our focus to just those two cities. So we will pick and choose how we want to grow in those markets.
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NOVEMBER 18, 2016 / 05:00PM GMT, FIBK - First Interstate BancSystem Inc Conference Call to
Discuss its Definitive Agreement to Acquire Cascade Bancorp
Tim Coffey - FIG Partners, LLC - Analyst
Okay. And as you look forward, kind of a far-forward question for you, Kevin in terms of First Interstate becoming a $15 billion, $20 billion institution, do you think you can accomplish that by just growing through acquisition or organic growth through the Cascade-First Interstate footprint? Or do you think we need to go outside of that?
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Interesting note, your thing about going to $20 billion. So I dont know Ive ever said that. But were going to continue to grow and as I stated many times before, Tim, big is not better. Better is better. So we will continue to monitor how we grow the institution if its through organic growth and we accomplish what we need to accomplish in regards to the performance, thats great.
If we have to enhance that with an acquisition here and there to make it beneficial for our shareholders, we will do that. So our whole thing is that we want to maintain and continue to be a high-performing financial institution, giving our shareholders the returns they expect. So we are going to look at all the opportunities, as I said earlier on.
We will look at all the tools in our toolbox. And that could be dividends, and share buybacks, acquisitions, organic growth our job is to continue to maintain our high performance, so we will be looking at everything.
Tim Coffey - FIG Partners, LLC - Analyst
Okay. Those are my questions thank you very much.
Operator
This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Kevin Riley for any closing remarks.
Kevin Riley - First Interstate Bancsystem, Inc. - President & CEO
Well, wed like to thank everyone for participating in our call. Please note that this call has been recorded and will be available on our website at www.FIBK.com beginning this afternoon. For those of you who have questions following the call, youre welcome to call or contact Marcy or myself at (406) 255-5312. Otherwise, we look forward to catching up with you over the next few months. Thank you.
Operator
The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending todays presentation. You may now disconnect.
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